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Post by bigblufan2 on May 5, 2011 13:49:34 GMT -5
As far as Toyota and Nissan making better cars than Ford, it is hard to believe that is not true.
If you asked anyone if they would rather have a Toyota Camry, Nissan Altima, Honda Accord or a Ford Focus... I'm pretty positive the vast majority would choose a Camry, Altima, or Accord over the Focus.
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Post by bigblufan2 on May 5, 2011 13:51:13 GMT -5
I'm sure the Lexus and Audi Hatchbacks are luxurious, and decent looking cars. However, you didn't buy a Lexus or an Audi.... you bought a Ford Focus
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Post by MeanJoe on May 5, 2011 13:57:30 GMT -5
All a hatchback means is there is cargo space behind the back seats that is accessible through a tailgate or the like. Nissan and Toyota's are far better cars than Fords. Hatchbacks can look nice like the ones that you are using in your examples (Volkswagen GTIs, Volvo C30's, Audi A3s) but the Ford Focus Hatchback is a far cry from the examples that you listed. I dont have a vendetta against hatchbacks but I do hate ugly cars and this below is an ugly looking car to me. FYI, the above statement is an opinion...hope your familiar with them.  |
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Post by MeanJoe on May 5, 2011 13:58:31 GMT -5
This shit above is definitely CGI which im going to say it looks worse in person or the actual picture of the car.
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Post by martinez on May 5, 2011 13:59:23 GMT -5
This isn't a discussion about someone's preference which you continously keep bringing up. I don't care you'd rather drive a Camry, Altima, or an Accord over a Ford Focus, I really don't but I am going by hard cold facts that Ford cars hold value much better than Toyota or Nissan's plain simple fact that you can Google for yourself.
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Post by martinez on May 5, 2011 14:00:45 GMT -5
I dont have a vendetta against hatchbacks but I do hate ugly cars and this below is an ugly looking car to me. FYI, the above statement is an opinion...hope your familiar with them. Yes I am familiar with opinions, I am also familiar with sarcastic tones which there is zero need for. I have yet to argue with anyone's opinon on the looks of the car, anyone can like what they want I really don't give a fuck. |
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Post by MeanJoe on May 5, 2011 14:03:30 GMT -5
VIA google search best resale value autos.
Kelley Blue Book
And the winners are:
2011 Best Resale Value: Brand
Subaru
2011 Best Resale Value: Luxury Brand
BMW
2011 Best Resale Value: By Vehicle Category
Subcompact Car: Honda Fit
Compact Car: MINI Cooper
Mid-Size Car: Honda Accord
Full-Size Car: Ford Taurus
Near-Luxury Car: Lexus IS
Luxury Car: Audi A5
Sports Car: Subaru Impreza WRX
High-Performance Car: Ford Mustang GT
Hybrid/Alt Energy Car: Volkswagen Golf TDI
Compact Utility Vehicle: Honda CR-V
Mid-Size Utility Vehicle: Toyota FJ Cruiser
Luxury SUV: BMW X5
Hybrid/ Alt Energy UV: BMW X5 XDrive35d
Mid-Size Pickup: Toyota Tacoma
Full-Size Pickup: Ford F-Series Super Duty
Van: Toyota Sienna
Wagon: Subaru Outback
2011 Best Resale Value Top 10 Models
(in alphabetical order)
Audi A5
BMW X5
BMW X6
Honda CR-V
Jeep Wrangler
Lexus GX
Lexus RX
Subaru Outback
Toyota FJ Cruiser
Toyota Tacoma
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Post by MeanJoe on May 5, 2011 14:04:21 GMT -5
I see ford under Full Size & High Performance
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Post by martinez on May 5, 2011 14:04:27 GMT -5
All a hatchback means is there is cargo space behind the back seats that is accessible through a tailgate or the like. Nissan and Toyota's are far better cars than Fords. Hatchbacks can look nice like the ones that you are using in your examples (Volkswagen GTIs, Volvo C30's, Audi A3s) but the Ford Focus Hatchback is a far cry from the examples that you listed. I listed examples of hatchbacks that are selling incredibly well in the American market, something that Blu tried to dispute. It has nothing to do which look nicer and which don't. The fact is the 2012 Ford Focus is a totally remodeled car and is nothing like the Focus of previous years. I could afford a GTI, a C30 or an Audi A3 but I chose the Ford Focus based on 5 things 1)Price 2)Quality 3)Reviews 4)I love the look of the car 5)Extremely fun to drive until the release of the new Focus, I would never touch a Ford. The facts are there, the reviews are there, everyone who test drives this car loves it. I love it and that's really all that matter and no Nissan and Toyota's are not better quality cars then Fords, sure, they make look nicer but check J&D Power Associates Ford>>>> Both |
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Post by martinez on May 5, 2011 14:07:26 GMT -5
I am getting leather seating sport bucket seats, Sports Suspension, Power Moonroof, 18" Inch Wheels, Rear Camera for parking, rain sensing wipers, Winter package which comes with heated seats.
You get those options on a Volvo or an Audi and you're looking at 35K+ hence my decision as wlel.
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Post by MeanJoe on May 5, 2011 14:10:15 GMT -5
Halla this is just a question.
You live in Europe correct?
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Post by martinez on May 5, 2011 14:10:38 GMT -5
and it's odd that you like the Volvo C30 and not the new 2012 Focus. The focus skeletal model was based off the C1 base model the same one used by the C30 and the Mazda Speed so you know it's top notch quality.
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Post by martinez on May 5, 2011 14:11:04 GMT -5
Halla this is just a question. You live in Europe correct? no I live in New Jersey. |
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Post by MeanJoe on May 5, 2011 14:12:36 GMT -5
Never said I liked it.. to be honest I just looked the three that you mentioned up and I am not a fan of any. I'm sure they are appealing to some but not myself.
Im sure it helps in Europe to have a compact car due to parking & narrow roads.
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Post by MeanJoe on May 5, 2011 14:13:12 GMT -5
Halla this is just a question. You live in Europe correct? no I live in New Jersey. lol o ok...  |
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